Oddly enough, Goth chicks

[John_F_Drake]

Anyone who has read my stories could probably tell immediately the type of girl who turns me on the most, because I write about her/them.  Goth girls.

Incidentally, it's more or less that lust that got me into rape in the first place, because I remember coming into it after I saw a girl crying in a music video, and her black eyeliner ran down her face with the tears, and I thought it was the sexiest thing I'd ever seen.

Essentially, there are 3 reasons I like goth chicks -
1) I like body modification - hair dying, tattoos, piercings... check
2) I like corsets and bodices... check
3) I LOVE black eyeliner and the way it runs when then cry, and
4) I'm a fan of sex with hot girls with low self esteem.

Is this weird?  Hell if I know.  It just it.  I like the idea of making them cry, and I enjoy making my own slave do it even more.

[Alebeard]

Ya know, that part about the low self esteem is so politically incorrect, I really love it.  Its true actually, I have always hadd an easier time playing with someone I just honestly did not like!

[John_F_Drake]

Mmm, I never have been able to.  Unless I can respect them on _some_ level, they just disgust me more than they turn me on.

Much more fun to break a story girl than a weak one.

[John_F_Drake]

Warning: the following post contains a little whining and much ranting.  Viewer Discretion Advised

Actually, this seems like a good place to vent a little.

Websites that do porn focusing on rape, bdsm, torture, etc etc etc... always focus on the same types of girls.

They have uniform sites, and they have basic standard beauty girls... long hair, usually fake tits, often blond, tall.  Nothing wrong with that standard of beauty, I enjoy it as much as anyone else.

But other than that, there's not much out there.  Porn on the internet does not seem to be a equal opportunity provider  ;).  This hold true in many cases, but the one relevent to this topic and the one I've looked for the most (inevitably) is my own fetish.  There are no videos, images, and other than my own, even stories of gothic women being raped, tortured, etc.  None that I've ever found, anyway... and believe me I've looked.  I'd even settle for drawings, but have basically given up on that as well.

It's not fair, I tell you.
/rant
/whine

Any similar experiences?

[mothbrad]

I've had a story idea for a long time based on a modern 'witch hunt', where (among hundreds of other convoluted plot lines), a teenage girl (I always think she's around 16-17, but if you're minds not there, she can be a young acting 18) is arrested by the 'inquisitorial' court, based on the fact that she wears lots of black, has all the Joy Division records, wears heavy make-up, etc.  Needless to say, things go downhill from there.

[John_F_Drake]

Well, write it!

I mean, by the rules of the internet, I can't be the ONLY one, right?

[John_F_Drake]

Note:  While the above rules show pretty much everything wrong with message boards on the internet, they are, by and large, true.

[mothbrad]

John, I spend a lot of time on various message boards, and to I have to be honest, I did not understand that list at all  ???  Especially in regard to my idea.

[John_F_Drake]

Sorry to be confusing.  The list was intended as a joke - a long running internet joke is that there is porn available on every given subject available, and that there is always someone who enjoys it.  The list itself had no relevance to your post at all... it was a reference to that if you wrote the story, "rule 34" wouldn't only be true because I made it so.

[mothbrad]

OK :)  My favourite Internet type message board joke is the old:

Q: Why is arguing on the internet like competing in the special Olympics?

A: Because even if you win, you're still a retard.

Yeah, yeah, it's horrible that someone said that.  Horrible, but true.

[John_F_Drake]

True.  Its also true because, as some wise man once said,

"Never argue with an idiot.  They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience every time"

[Social Exile]

Well John,

I feel your pain in this department. To me the hottest girls in the world are goth, punk or covered in tattoos/piercings. I would love to find more sites dealing with these wonderful women, force fantasy or not. But I always seems to strike out 8 p

The only site I can think of that comes close that comes close to the torture aspect would be www.gothicsluts.com. Theres not much xxx content, since its mostly glamour photos and its not true torture or force fantasy, but they deal with some hot goth women and occasional gore and costumes.

A bunch of hot gothic girls vampin out on each and bitin all over(staged or not) can be hot ya know 8 )

A Social Exile

[John_F_Drake]

Commiserate.

If you haven't guess already...

To me the hottest girls in the world are goth, punk or covered in tattoos/piercings. I would love to find more sites dealing with these wonderful women, force fantasy or not. But I always seems to strike out 8 p

I feel exactly the same.  The only site of such girls I've ever found to be quality at all is Suicide Girls, and that literally couldn't have less to do with force fantasy.

The other problem I run into with a lot of sites is that their aimed more at a rediculous fetish than a reality.  I find real gothic girls, the kind you'd find on the street or in a mall, much hotter than the far overdone girls you frequently see on websites.

For example, which of these girls strike you as more attractive?

or

Not exactly the best of examples, because I find both of them hot, but its the best example I could find on short notice... I don't save images I don't like, obviously.

The answer, to me, would always be the girl on the bottom, even though the other is extremely attractive as well.  I don't know exactly what it is, but its probably the drastically overdone nature of the other girl's photoset, like its taking aim at a target audience and bashing it in to fit the stereotype as much as possible.  That lack of any element of reality doesn't do it for me.

Liz vicious, however... I would love to do all sorts of things to that 18 year old.

I'm I coming across clear at all, or am I making no sense?

(and I'm so glad I'm not the only source of a demand for gothic rape.  Enough of the culture is into BDSM, you would think some website producer would have woken up by now)

[John_F_Drake]

I found a much better example of what I was talking about with "overdone"-ness.
and

90% of the time, thats the kind of content the internet provides, rather than girls I can actually believe to exist, not a doll someone made for a shooting and won't exist again afterwards.

I'm still ranting and probably making little sense, so I'm going to quite while I'm behind and post more to other threads.

Someone let me know if I'm making any sense, or tell me to shut up, or say I tell it like it is, or whatever.

[Social Exile]

You're makin perfect sense. Suicidegirls is the only real quality site ive found as well. Though its pretty much the same as the one i posted earlier, glamour shots only, yet quite a bit better.

It's somehow nicer when it seems like the way a girl looks is based on her lifestyle and personality and not on what the producer/photographer told her to wear that day. If that makes sense.

Suicidegirls is that way. It seems like the girls are genuinely just hot, which keeps it interesting. But hey, we seem like the silent minority of fans out there, leavin us without what we'd really enjoy on the internet. Thats why this forum and rppstories is so great, if people cant find what they like then we can always write up the perfect stories to satisfy their needs 8 )

A Social Exile