Innocent Victims

[Dr Verloc]

So which do we prefer? An innocent victim? Or should the bitch have it coming? And when, if ever does she have it coming? Suppose she was a soldier, spy, or undercover police officer, who's job it is to take serious risks? What about a woman who uses her looks or her body to get what she wants. What about a female criminal, for example? Or is it enough that she's simply a tease, or a slut?

Or is an innocent victim better? Someone who is simply taken unaware for no reason other then that someone wanted her? Of course innocent has another possible meaning.  An innocent victim could be someone who is young and sexually inexperienced? Is a virginal or inexperienced victim more desireable than a more experienced woman? But that's really another topic altogether...

Dr Verloc

[Sprayman]

Doc,

I went with three. Almost any woman can be the perfect victim. A lot of it depends on my state of mind at the instant I determine she will be my victim! If I had to pick between the first two choices, I would lean slightly, and only slightly, toward the 'innocent victim' type. At my age, they are a little easier to catch, because they don't expect it or see it coming. Bitches expect trouble!

[Quixote]

I want her to have it coming.

But I think reasons for "having it coming" can include, for example, an outfit ...

[subnoxious]

um.. how come we can't have "one of each" to watch how the two ends of the pole play off of...

never mind.. I got distracted by the whole idea of "two ends" and "pole play" to remember where I was going with that.

[Quixote]

Put it all together ...

One of each victim.  A long dining-table.  Rope.  A pole.  Two large, spiked dildos.  Superglue.  Chilli oil.  Candles. 

Dinner guests.   ;D

[Sprayman]

Put it all together ...

One of each victim.  A long dining-table.  Rope.  A pole.  Two large, spiked dildos.  Superglue.  Chilli oil.  Candles. 

Dinner guests.   ;D

I'll bring the wine. Just let me know how many are coming, and if we need red, white, or both! ;)

[Darkling]

I can go either way on this and make up the story line to suit.

[Dr Verloc]

This poll is coming out about as I expected it would.

I personally prefer a bitch who deserves it, but I accept that the concept of "deserves" is a bit slippery and in the eye of the rapist/torturer. I Believe De Sade once speculated about a world in which beauty, rather than giving a woman power, would put her in the power of those who desired her. (No, I can't quote this exactly, it's one of those half-remembered factoids.) In any case, the grounds for deserving it can be awfully broad and open to interpretation.

Dr Verloc

[Sprayman]

This poll is coming out about as I expected it would.

I personally prefer a bitch who deserves it, but I accept that the concept of "deserves" is a bit slippery and in the eye of the rapist/torturer. I Believe De Sade once speculated about a world in which beauty, rather than giving a woman power, would put her in the power of those who desired her. (No, I can't quote this exactly, it's one of those half-remembered factoids.) In any case, the grounds for deserving it can be awfully broad and open to interpretation.

Dr Verloc

I can't quote it exactly either but agree completely. Often, if not always, beauty deserves punishment just for being beautiful and therefore desirable.

[Quixote]

It's not so much punishment, for me, if beauty is the main motivation.  It has no reason.

There is just nothing in life that can compare with making a beautiful woman cry ...

[Sprayman]

It's not so much punishment, for me, if beauty is the main motivation.  It has no reason.

There is just nothing in life that can compare with making a beautiful woman cry ...

But, how do you make her cry, if not by punishing her???

[Quixote]

Pain isn't always punishment.

Punishment isn't always pain.

Symmetrical statements aren't always clever.

[Dr Verloc]

Sprayman wrote:

There is just nothing in life that can compare with making a beautiful woman cry ...

I'll rephrase that a bit. There's nothing like bringing out a woman's beauty. I read somewhere once a profound truth, and I can't credit the original author because I don't know his name. A woman is never more beautiful than when she's in pain, whether it's the pain of childbirth, or being pulled apart on the rack. She isn't punished for her beauty. She is raped and  tortured as a way of appreciating her true beauty.

Beauty is evanescent. A woman's physical beauty fades with time. How much briefer is the beauty that comes of relentless, excruciating torture that destroys her body and breaks her spirit. She will end, if she survives as all, as a ruined husk of her former self. But while the pain lasts, she will be radiant. There is nothing she can wear more beautiful than her own tears and agony sweat.
 
Dr Verloc

[Sprayman]

Extremely well put, Dr.

[sindyloo]

   Jumping in here and any who disagree with me may whip me at will!?? ;) :D

  But I picked the second choice as I feel it is more exciting and satisfying if She HAS it coming to her.   Payback is a Bitch and Oh sooo exciting as well....esp to some one who has done you wrong.

   The look of shock and recognition on her face as she understands why she is being punished and raped.  And the look of Despair as she knows that there will be NO mercy at all!