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Question: How much research on the victim ahead of time is worthwhile?
Befriending her in an internet chatroom and coaxing out all her dirty little secrets/private fears before tracking her down is a viable option (given sufficient security for the stalker)   -2 (11.8%)
Following her for weeks, perhaps letting her know someone's watching, is entertaining; plus, that photo of her masturbating with her teddy bear will come in handy.   -5 (29.4%)
The codes or blackmail details she'd want to protect are all I need to break her   -4 (23.5%)
Damaging personal information can be extracted during interrogation   -1 (5.9%)
Unneccessary waste of time, energy, resources. Properly planned and executed torture and nonpersonalized degradation will be damaging enough   -3 (17.6%)
other: please describe   -2 (11.8%)
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« on: November 17, 2008, 01:29:48 AM »

For the cold, calculating types and their victims.
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« Reply #1 on: November 17, 2008, 01:17:27 PM »

Internet friendship is a nice place to start.  Get to the point where she wants to meet, if you can.  Then show up before you're supposed to meet, introduce yourself and then take her, break her, and make her what you want her to be.
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« Reply #2 on: November 17, 2008, 05:50:28 PM »

some of the options weren't really that clear to me in how they relate back to the question at hand... but I selected:

other: as to how much, if any preplanning is done relates directly back the the amount of jail time you're willing to endure should you get caught.

That said, stalking, by common definition, is the watching of other persons on a regular, and often times more familiar basis and occurrence than anyone generally finds... appealing.

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« Reply #3 on: November 17, 2008, 08:34:47 PM »

I picked other. I will quote General Patton's dictum that time spent on reconnaissance is never wasted. Basically, I would want to know as much as possible about her. I want to know her routines, who visits her, who she sees, how she spends her time, how she spends her money, what kind of car she drives, the layout of her home, whether she has any pets, does she own a gun, or mace, or a taser...I want to know everything.

Partly this is to help plan and execute the abduction, and partly this is to help me plan out her deconstruction. I want to know any emotional vulnerabilities, fears, or anything else that I can use against her. Also, I want to know how soon she'll be missed, and who's going to come looking for her.

Obviously once I have her we'll be getting MUCH better acquainted, but I don't want to feel that I'm abducting a total stranger. I want to have some sense of her as a person, so that we can form a connection early in her captivity. The more we are connected emotionally, the easier it will be to manipulate her, and eventually to break her.

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« Reply #4 on: November 17, 2008, 10:16:41 PM »

The more we are connected emotionally....



Wow...

That. Is. Hot. (and cold, and underhanded, and ruthless, and... and...)

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« Reply #5 on: November 18, 2008, 12:30:32 AM »

some of the options weren't really that clear to me in how they relate back to the question at hand...


i could have chosen a better word...i was thinking in terms of stalking prey. What i'm interested in is how much personal information you'd want about your victim, and how you might go about obtaining same.

That said, it occurred to me that your "common definition" (caveat: he/she remains anonymous) stalker would have the opportunity to gauge reactions, quite possibly revealing some defenses to be taken into account.
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« Reply #6 on: November 18, 2008, 12:38:46 AM »

Internet friendship is a nice place to start. 


This option, depending on how it played out, could carry a strong tone of self-undoing and betrayal that i find strangely appealing.


It also seems tailor-made for you, Q, although that wasn't my intention at time of writing...

...probably.

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« Reply #7 on: November 18, 2008, 12:59:21 AM »



...this is to help me plan out her deconstruction. I want to know any emotional vulnerabilities, fears, or anything else that I can use against her.

Obviously once I have her we'll be getting MUCH better acquainted, but I don't want to feel that I'm abducting a total stranger. I want to have some sense of her as a person, so that we can form a connection early in her captivity. The more we are connected emotionally, the easier it will be to manipulate her, and eventually to break her.

Dr Verloc



Ultimately, leaving her no hiding places in her head. 
Very, very scary. :)



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« Reply #8 on: November 18, 2008, 08:57:56 AM »

"... quite possibly revealing some defenses to be taken into account."


Huh? I'm not sure I understand this one either. Eh... maybe it's just that there is too much being shoved into one poll for me to sort through neatly.  :)
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« Reply #9 on: November 18, 2008, 02:28:33 PM »

Ah, the deliciousness of the word "probably".  *grin*

Feels just like old times.
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« Reply #10 on: November 18, 2008, 03:07:51 PM »


Huh? I'm not sure I understand this one either. Eh... maybe it's just that there is too much being shoved into one poll for me to sort through neatly.  :)



:)

Duly noted.
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« Reply #11 on: November 18, 2008, 09:28:07 PM »

For the cold, calculating types and their victims.


I am surprisingly torn between "Befriending her" and "Unnecessary waste of time." I'll have to ponder this one.
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« Reply #12 on: November 19, 2008, 03:12:19 AM »



I am surprisingly torn between "Befriending her" and "Unnecessary waste of time."


i'll admit i think of this as a choice between scalpel and sledgehammer, either one potentially devastating in immediate effect...but i tend to think a personalized attack would do far more lasting damage, if that's a goal.

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« Reply #13 on: November 19, 2008, 12:56:36 PM »

I love blackmail as compelling force, but the thought I keep coming back to is trust, and betrayal.

I love the idea of a woman thinking she has a friend.  A nurtured level of intimacy.  She has opened up to this person.  And now she can hear their merry laughter at her frantic screams.

That's what the poll makes me think of.
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« Reply #14 on: November 19, 2008, 05:49:54 PM »

I don't especially have an opinion one way or the other, but I love thinking about this poll ...
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