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« Reply #30 on: April 16, 2009, 11:10:47 PM »

I don't think that that's equivalent.

I don't think you can be a good Dom without understanding the Sub's experience.  I agree with you that being a Sub isn't necessary to that, but I think the people who think it is have more of a point than your analogy.

Here I think we'll have to respectfully agree to disagree.  I can learn about a sub's experience by talking to them, reading, or just using human empathy (such as it is, in the heart of sadist).  If I was to be a sub, all I would be doing is entering into something that wouldn't be any fun - because I'm not submissive, I don't think I'd get out of it what a real submissive does.

OK - a better example than the gay one.  Here, there's been a personal fitness trainer in the news, who came up with the gimmick of putting on weight so that he went from a fit, healthy 80kg to an unhealthy 120kg (roughly moving from 176 to 264 pounds).  He's doing this, so he says, to understand what it's like to be one of his obsese clients.

The problems with this are obvious.  Aside from the health problems that rapidly gaining weight cause (which aren't really relevent to this discussion, but anyway ...), even when he is overweight physically, he still won't have any more empathy for what causes people to overeat, or be unable to exercise, and so on.  Oh sure - he'll know how much harder it is to get large pants, but that's about it.

Like Spray, I'd be a lousy sub, for a range of reasons, but mostly linked to the fact I can't imagine I'd get any sexual enjoyment out of it.  I can only imagine it being a negative for me.  That doesn't for a second mean that other people won't get some benefit from it - my problem is with those who set it up as a sort of 'rule' that all prospective dominants have to follow, lest they be considered poseurs and fakes.
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« Reply #31 on: April 16, 2009, 11:20:01 PM »

Confused.  What are we disagreeing about?  I agreed with you that submission wasn't necessary for understanding.

And I hate those people too.  I hate anybody who wants to decide what 'the right way' is for people to do kink.  But any group or community has its wannabe-leader assholes.  I try not to sweat it.
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« Reply #32 on: April 16, 2009, 11:22:58 PM »

Err, no disagreement really.

ETA: Oh, except that I think my earlier analogy was spot on for me, but it's not really that important.
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« Reply #33 on: May 08, 2009, 01:32:01 AM »



 



 
 


 

Which aspects of being a Dom/me would you like to try / do you think you'd be good at?
Which do you think you'd hate / be rubbish at?
What's the hardest thing, in your opinion, about being a Dom/me?

 



I would like the part where some submissive boy came over and cleaned my house. I could tell him what a dirt bag he was and spank his needy little ass till he got my third bathroom cleaned and chase him out with a rolled up news paper.
I would hate tryng to act like I actually liked being in charge of another human being because its difficult enough just understanding my own need to be dominated, hurt and pushed into the dirt so acting like I did would be very trying.


The hardest thing is actually understanding or getting off on being in control of another human being.  Its much easier to just do what Im told and to be hurt or used as my dominant sadist pleases. 
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« Reply #34 on: May 08, 2009, 01:50:05 AM »

Emma, I really appreciate what you wrote there.  Aside from the humour, it points out just how difficult it is for those of us who are all the way on one end of the D/S spectrum to fully empathise with those on the other end.
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« Reply #35 on: May 08, 2009, 01:54:04 AM »

    Its nice to be understood.. and I also very much respect those on the opposite end of this wonderful spectrum.   What a long strange trip its been.. hope its not over for a looong time.
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« Reply #36 on: May 08, 2009, 08:55:04 AM »

    Its nice to be understood.. and I also very much respect those on the opposite end of this wonderful spectrum.   What a long strange trip its been.. hope its not over for a looong time.


Knowing you and Ale - I'm pretty sure you are both in this for the long run. If not - you know how to contact me. LOL
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