Violet tortured and abused

[Violet]

I don't know, a partly clothed woman can definitely be sexy.  I just love when a girl wears a baggy sweatshirt and nothing else.  Then there's the humiliation factor as well - a lot of women find wearing some clothes (ie lingerie) more embarrassing than wearing nothing.  And embarrassment is a huge turn on.
And I like ropes as well, but am far too lazy and impatient to do ropework myself.

[Quixote]

I need to get some rope, actually.  Not for bondage per se, but to do crotch ropes.  Something nice and rough.  :-)

As for clothing, I like both.  Nudity is beautiful, especially in bondage, but there are many pleasant options. 

In general, my favourite state of (un)dress to see a woman in is bottomless.  There's something so lewd about it, so vulnerable.  She isn't naked.  She's just ... exposed.  Makes my brain boil.

[cordoza]

She isn't naked.  She's just ... exposed.  Makes my brain boil.

So it seems we've found an answer to the energy crisis, connect Quixote's head up to a heat exchanger and an endless procession of partly clad ladies shall pass before his eyes!

I'm listening to all these comments, nice to see just why things I don't like turn other people on. It's all a matter of taste. I am always keen to see women's naked feet in a shot, strangely because I am fascinated by the way they can bend in the middle almost to ninety degrees, I don't think men can do that. I can't flex my feet at all, the merest deviation from flat gives me screaming cramp and so often wakes me up in the night. I just love the shape of women's feet, especially those of the more glamorous (or should I say professional) models. I don't know if it's fitness training, poise, or their footwear, but their feet appear long and elegant and a very sexy overall shape. It has often been said that porn models wear nothing but high heels to make them look more slutty, which I hate, as I'd rather they looked plain female. I just hate the words slut and whore! I have never slept with a prostitute, but had I done so I would not have treated her as a whore. Role play is fine, but treating women as shit really makes me angry.

[Quixote]

Like you were saying, all a matter of taste.  Feet are probably the part of a woman's body that interest me the least.

Also, what turns me on often isn't really what a woman is or isn't wearing, but how she feels about it.  In vanilla terms, I believe that a woman looks her sexiest in whatever makes her feel sexiest.  In bdsm terms, I would say a woman looks her most deliciously embarassed and vulnerable in whatever makes her feel the most embarassed and vulnerable.

And I like embarassed and vulnerable.  :-)

[cordoza]

I still think there's a difference between consensual and non consensual in the sense that women of a certain religious background can be beaten, tortured, or even executed for not wearing what they don't like to wear, and that is a very very great distance away from consensuality, or even in my mind, eroticism.

But I think I know what you mean, because I once attended a meeting where the the young and very pretty woman giving the talk had unwisely chosen a very short skirt and didn't know she was going to be provided with a high stool to sit on. Normally I would turned my head to look at such a woman walking down the street, but it seemed appropriate for me to look away as she was so embarrassed. Maybe I sound hypocritical, but actually confronted with her obvious distress I just couldn't look. I mean, glamour or porn is something else, isn't it? It is consensual, but this poor woman's predicament wasn't.

I'm not trying to be a moral kill joy, it's just that in some situations one surely doesn't take advantage of women, like when one's wife or girlfriend is seriously ill in bed or hospital, and their clothing slips to reveal their body. I just don't think that counts as consensually erotic, not if they are not well enough to consent. Just how far can 'what is erotic' go, would it be erotic to start pawing one's partner's genitals and breasts if the midwife had hoisted up her gown to give birth? I don't know, maybe I'm just too coy for this group.

[Emma]

But I think I know what you mean, because I once attended a meeting where the the young and very pretty woman giving the talk had unwisely chosen a very short skirt and didn't know she was going to be provided with a high stool to sit on. Normally I would turned my head to look at such a woman walking down the street, but it seemed appropriate for me to look away as she was so embarrassed. Maybe I sound hypocritical, but actually confronted with her obvious distress I just couldn't look. I mean, glamour or porn is something else, isn't it? It is consensual, but this poor woman's predicament wasn't.

I think that perhaps all she had to do was ask for another seat or simply stand if she was going to be exposed and uncomfortable about it. Problem was easily solved.

I'm not trying to be a moral kill joy, it's just that in some situations one surely doesn't take advantage of women, like when one's wife or girlfriend is seriously ill in bed or hospital, and their clothing slips to reveal their body. I just don't think that counts as consensually erotic, not if they are not well enough to consent. Just how far can 'what is erotic' go, would it be erotic to start pawing one's partner's genitals and breasts if the midwife had hoisted up her gown to give birth? I don't know, maybe I'm just too coy for this group.

Are you somehow thinking that this group condones real life non consensual acts or thinks its sexy or fun to grope a person who is gravely ill or  incapacitated?   If you go to the main area of the members site, there is an statement that says:   This is a Extreme fantasy site for adults, not to be confused with reality or any endorsement of violence against women. RPP strongly supports the right of all people to live without fear of thought and fantasy censorship as we support the rights of all human beings to live without the fear of violence.and another statement from the Free sample area again says: The following Previews are fantasy. They do not in any way represent an endorsement of any real or suggested interactions. This is not said purely for legal reasons by any means but is a serious statement. If you can not tell the difference between fantasy and reality or you believe anything written in the stories are acceptable, outside of fantasy, please get yourself help!

I cannot speak for everyone who graces our doors but I think that the intelligent folks that post here in this forum would agree with the above statements.

I think that if you are curious about what goes on in the mind of someone who has rape/force/torture/or some other perverse fantasies that they either like to talk about or act on in real life with a willing partner then this is a good place to be, but if its simply upsetting then i would wonder what the draw or reason is for torturing yourself by continuing to peruse the content of this forum or any others like it.   Everyone is welcome as are their comments so please don't take this reply as a negative one.  I just wanted to clarify and state my thoughts to your curious post.  =)

[Quixote]

1.  Unless there's something I'm missing, I probably would have stared.  Because it wasn't non-consensual.  Like Emma said - how hard is it to stand up?

2.  Sick people aren't erotic (to me anyway).

Beyond that, not sure what to say.  Agree with Emma.  And really, genuinely sorry if we are causing you distress.

[cordoza]

Oh dear! I'm really very sorry Emma, I was just speaking generally, not accusing anyone of anything. I just wondered after Quixote's comment on how far the idea of erotic went, because I honestly don't know. As a matter of interest, after writing what I did I thought that giving birth is a beautiful thing too, and obviously a part of both sex and love, so why shouldn't that be erotic as much as anything else. I'm still thinking about these things.

It's probably just my fault for not being active in this kind of lifestyle that I don't know how you all think, but was hoping I might learn more, not just about you, but also me. I don't know what I am in the sense of sadist or masochistic, but I feel I obviously have a leaning towards something, but I'm very sorry if my uncertainty, confusion, and inexperience is causing waves and sending out negative messages. I envy you all if you really know who and what you are in this sense. I honestly didn't mean to be rude, I'm just having great difficulty coming out of the closet!

If I really am offending people then leaving this forum is probably the best option. I hope you find new members who offer a more positive contribution, or whatever sounds like a friendly way of saying that, because I've always tried to be polite and nice to people here :)

[Quixote]

NOBODY IS OFFENDED!

Don't leave.  We like you.  :-)

[cordoza]

I'm wondering if I'm appearing a little intense because I'm only concentrating on a very few threads of this forum. That's because I'm extremely shy about making friends, so am doing so a bit at a time, which might look like I'm picking on people. Sorry. I've also felt this is risky because I can't find the smile icon in the above smilies, and I might have misread Emma's last comment because I don't know what that symbol is she put at the end? I've never seen it before, or some of the ones other people use.

Emma is right about me torturing myself, as I said, I'm just unsure of wanting to be anything other than just an artist or writer. Which, by the way, is causing me great problems as I mentioned in one of the other posts that I'm bipolar and am experiencing a long term creative block which is why I'm not at present producing any stories or illustrations. We BP's only have two speeds, dead stop and full ahead. I've been trying as hard as I can, but I start drawing and writing and it suddenly fizzles out, like I'm up against a solid wall, and it affects everything I do in life, not just art; often can't cook, clean, go out, or do anything I want, can't even bloody sleep unless it lets me! I'm afraid that as I've got this horrible illness I just can't be relied on to contribute anything to 'any' internet community but the occasional nervous forray into a forum. To use an appropriate analogy, I just have to sit here at the crossing and wait for the very long train to pass before I get a break again and out pops a picture or story. It's a bloody nuisance to me!

By the way, we BP's live in a constant state of high anxiety, so please don't mistake that for being rude or upset...which is probably why I'm rambling on at the moment. I'm often discretely told that whatever I say sounds like it's coming through a megaphone. 

Thank you for your patience in reading this :)

[Quixote]

Ok.  Not sure exactly how to respond so I'll leave it at this.

For my part, I think you are making a valuable contribution to the forum, and everything's cool.

Sorry you're blocked.

[Sprayman]

Cordoza,

Most of us here at this forum have pretty thick skins and it is damn hard to really annoy us significantly. On the other hand, many of the members may respond to something you say in a way that you feel is an attack.

I believe in free speech - for the most part and have no problem with you expressing your feelings and/or concerns. That is true even when I disagree with every word you type. The problem arises when we express our disagreement with what you say.

I don't think anyone at this forum dislikes you or wants to hurt you in any way, but many of us may disagree with some of your thoughts, just as you disagree with some of our thoughts.

Discussion is what drives this forum and dissenting views drive discussion.

Say what you think, but don't be surprised when I disagree... and try to change your mind.

And please... don't take it personally.

[Violet]

Jumping in kinnda late here. 

Just repeating what everyone else has already said: you're definitely welcome here.  Everyone has different views about things, which is what makes this forum work.  We're all a friendly bunch and don't mean any offense - and nothing you've said has caused offense at all!

And can understand that you're still trying to find yourself in a sado-masochist way, and trying to slowly edge out of the closet.  Think all of us here have gone through some form or other of that.  So feel free to ask as many questions as you want.
But all of us here oppose real-life non-consensual.  N/c is just fantasy.

Oh - and =) that is a smiley face, same as :).

[Emma]

and now - Back to our regularly aired program:  Violet tortured and abused   

[Quixote]

:-)